MOCKINGJAY Discussion and Spoilers

Mockingjay by Suzanne Collins

SPOILER ALERT: Warning! Major spoilers for Mockingjay ahead! This post is intended to be a place to discuss everything that happened in Mockingjay. If you haven’t yet read Mockingjay, check out our spoiler-free review.

So now that we’ve finished Mockingjay we’re (Jose and Kristen) dying to talk about it! Let’s start with our general thoughts about the book and then move on to some of the specific events.

Jose: Well, I talked about my feelings about the book in my review, but overall I have to say that I really liked it and thought it was a great piece of dystopian writing.

Kristen: Mockingjay just blew my mind. I mean, what an EPIC way to end a trilogy. It was hard to read at times, but I respect the fact that Suzanne Collins didn’t try to sugarcoat the war or make Katniss warm and fuzzy. She genuinely surprised me too. There were a few times when my mouth just dropped open in SHOCK because I couldn’t believe what I was reading.

Jose: Well, I think we all had those OMG type moments while reading this series.

Peeta versus Gale – The Aftermath

Kristen: As much I was rooting for Gale, there was no way he and Katniss could end up together after what he did in Mockingjay. I knew he had a lot of anger in him, but I was shocked by how he used that anger to design weapons to kill people. That his idea for a bomb was possibly used to kill all those kids, including Prim (*sob*), is just unforgivable.

Jose: At the same time, even though I was pulling for Peeta, there’s no escaping the fact that he was severely affected by his time under interrogation at the Capitol. When one person in the relationship has tried to kill the other it tends to throw a wrench into things. I was actually surprised she ended up with Peeta in the end–I thought Collins would have let her live out her days without Peeta or Gale.

Kristen: Me too! I was surprised when Peeta showed up at the end. And how weird was it that for most of the book Peeta was absent or not himself?

Jose: Still, if there was anyone who could console and understand what Katniss had gone through, it was Peeta, so maybe it was for the best that they ended up together.

Kristen: Yeah, I really feel like there were no winners in this situation. Katniss and Peeta may have gotten together and had kids, but it wasn’t a “…and they lived happily ever after” situation. They just picked up the broken pieces of their lives as best they could.

District 13 – A Nice Place to Visit, But…

Jose: So we finally get to see the mysterious District 13 that we’ve been excited about since Catching Fire, and it was a whole lot of tunnels with the charm of Alcatraz.

Kristen: Uggh, it was horrible, right? They had a little more food, but no freedom. I was hoping District 13 would be some sort of Utopia, but it wasn’t much better than Panem. While the people in the Capitol were brightly colored and blinged-out, District 13 was its sterile (literally) cousin.

Jose: Actually now that you mention it, there was a lot of dualities between the Capitol and District 13 weren’t there? I mean both are led by intense leaders who appear to rule with an iron fist. Both seemed to have little regard for the people in the other Districts caught in the middle of this war. Both wanted to mold Katniss for their own means.

Kristen: So what did you think of Alma Coin? I don’t think she was much different than President Snow–especially since she (most likely) killed Prim and tried to kill Katniss. Maybe she was even worse than Snow.

Jose: I have to agree. It’s interesting that leading up to Mockingjay you get the impression that this is all a noble struggle between the beaten down districts and the all mighty Capitol. Then we find out it’s about who wants to control Panem more, the President who smells of blood and roses or the very ruthless, power-hungry District 13 leader?

The Assassination of Alma Coin by the Mockingjay Katniss Everdeen

Jose: What did you think of how Katniss handled the execution of President Snow?

Kristen: I’m still in shock by the choice Katniss made. That was the best OMG moment in the book. I literally gasped out loud. Do you think it was just revenge for Prim’s death?

Jose: I think Katniss realized (with help from Snow no less) that Coin would be just as terrible a ruler as Snow was, and that she had a chance to break the cycle. I was completely shocked by it–I had to keep on rereading it because I thought it was a typo!

Kristen: Yeah, that’s what the rebellion was all about–freeing themselves from an oppressive leader.

Jose: It’s interesting that one of the subtexts near the end of the war was the role that Katniss would have in selecting the next leader of Panem. I think it was Boggs who pointed out that if she wasn’t for Coin she wouldn’t be of much use to the new government. It’s funny how Katniss pretty much decided that None of the Above was her option for future leader of Panem.

Kristen: Oooh, good point! Still, that was an impulsive–if courageous–move on her part.

Death, Death, and More Death

Kristen: Well, my prediction that either Gale or Peeta would die didn’t come true. Not that I’m complaining! But there were still a lot of casualties in the war. Prim’s death, of course, was the hardest to take.

Jose: I think Prim’s death really was the surprise that no one saw coming. In many ways Katniss’ role in this series was to protect Prim, and in the end she fails to do so (though not through her fault). The large number of deaths in the book really surprised me, but there was a war going on, so I shouldn’t be that surprised.

Kristen: Finnick’s death really made me sad too. His reunion with Annie was so sweet, but too short. And then there’s Cinna. I really had hoped that he would be alive in Mockingjay.

Jose: Me too, I was in that “I haven’t seen a body so there’s still a chance” camp. I think Cinna would’ve been nice addition to the book, even if only for a short bit.

Odds and Ends

Jose: After reading all the books, I’m kind of surprised I missed the ties to Roman history sprinkled throughout the books. Maybe Collins was treating the Hunger Games series as similar to Gibbon’s The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire? The most clever connection was Plutarch becoming Secretary of Communications, since the original Plutarch was known for his biographies and essays.

Kristen: Cool, I didn’t make that connection. I’m really intrigued by “The Hanging Tree” song that kept popping up throughout Mockingjay (I keep humming it to the tune of “Lord of the Dance“). There’s a really interesting discussion of it over at Hogwarts Professor, who says that the song could be about a revolutionary that is urging people to join in his cause–that the song is really a call to arms. I like that idea because it also relates to the rope necklaces we see the characters making throughout the book.

Jose: Nice, I didn’t make the connection while reading the book. Now that you mention it, there’s a great quote attributed to Ben Franklin around the time of the Declaration of Independence, “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately”. He was making the point that the colonies must join together in the war or risk perishing separately. (By the way, 13 Colonies – 13 Districts….coincidence? I think not!)

Kristen: What was your favorite quote? Mine was:

Peeta: “You love me. Real or not real?
Katniss: “Real.”

Jose: Mine was:

“Ally.” Peeta say’s the words slowly, tasting it. “Friend. Lover. Victor. Enemy. Fiancée. Target. Mutt. Neighbor. Hunter. Tribute. Ally. I’ll add it to the list of words I use to try to figure you out.”

So what did you guys think of Mockingjay? What moment did you think was most shocking? Did you cry when Prim died? Are you happy with the way Collins wrapped everything up? Share your thoughts and favorite quotes in the comments!

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  • http://ignoranthistorian.com Ronnica

    When I was reading about the assassination of President Coin, I actually read it wrong, and thought it said she killed Snow. It confused me and I had to go back…but it would have been more shocking if I had read it right to begin with!

    To me, the most shocking moment was Finnick’s death. I barely remember him from Catching Fire, but I really grew to like him and had pity on him because of all he’d been through.

    • Dina

      That was totally same as me. At first, I thought she killed snow. But after reading some spoilers, I actually found out that it was coin who she killed. I think she made the right decision, though.

      The most shocking moment I had was definitely prims death and maybe also finnick. I hated how most of the people throughout the three books that we learned to know and love just left or died in the end, but what can we expect?

      • Maria

        Same. I totaly cried when Prim died and when katniss started to scream at Buttercup because of Prim’s death. I will never forgive Gale for what he did. I’m happy Katniss picked Peeta in the end, but I was so sad that Finnick died. TEAM FINNICK 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!

  • Ariel

    I also made the mistake of coin/snow assassination. It shocked me most with Prim’s death- never in a million years would I have thought that the one main goal of Katniss was never to be reached. I was a tad bit mad at Collin’s ending, but then realized that it was actually realistic as opposed to most fairy tale endings that appeal to people. I guess it is just hard for me to accept certain fates for the characters I have come to know and love. I still feel that Collins was a bit vague and rushed at the end, but maybe that is because this is the state of mind of the characters at that point of time. We do not know what is to come, but it is definitely an ominous thought that the brutal battle for power will be involved within a vicious cycle. As long as there are humans existing within this world, they will always be capable of evil as long with good. It made me glad that Katniss and Prim’s kitty found comfort in each other too.

    • nickelnick

      hey just remember you are human too.

    • Jordan

      I agree. The ending wasn’t as good as it could’ve, what it SHOULD’VE been.

    • chris

      it was life, though. thats why the books are so hated and liked. they ARE like life. that happens here, too. My cousin got married, had a kid, then got killed in war.

  • Sheena

    I loved the book. I couldn’t put it down for the life of me and after finishing it at 1:30 am I am paying for it this morning. But I had a questions that i would like to discuss

    What was the trail like after Katniss kill Coin? Did the the conversation between snow and katniss come into play?

  • Jeanne Steinbrenner

    I was shocked that Katniss and Haymitch both voted yes to having the final Hunger Games with the Capital children. Isn’t that as bloodthirsty as what Gale was doing? Do you think those games were actually held, since Coin was dead?

    • Chelsea

      I think the book said that there were no more Hunger Games held. It hadn’t been publicly announced yet, and with Katniss assassinating Coin, it probably got reevaluated as a dumb idea.

    • http://www.daemonsbooks.com/author/kristen Kristen

      I was shocked that Katniss would vote for another Hunger Games too! I’ve heard one theory that she voted this way to distract Coin from what she planned to do later (the assassination). That didn’t occur to me at all, but I kind of like that interpretation of things.

    • Sheena Smith

      I don’t agree with that interpretation because I felt her decision was spur of the moment when she looked at snow and at that moment knew he wasn’t lying about the hovercraft with the parachutes. I don’t think the assassination was planned like a lot of what she did in the book. She isn’t much of a planner really She’s quite spontaneous

      • OmgIateat

        The book actually states that Katniss did it thinking of Prim. so !!
                                                                                                            

    • http://shelliemell.tumblr.com Michelle

      I was completely shocked. The entire time we hear how much Katniss hates the Capitol for murdering children, for using the Games as such a weak excuse for slaughter, and she condemns the Capitol of the same fate?! I don’t understand why in the world she would think that’s a good idea. Children are children, whether capitol or not. There’s that little thought she had…”The Hunger Games would never end, etc. etc.” But surely she would try her hardest to stop them? And if she voted yes with some ulterior motive, I sure didn’t catch it. It just seemed as if she voted out of bitterness for her sister’s death, and that just seems so counter-intuitive to her entire cause, her entire way of thinking.

      • Dina

        She said yes for prim. Why would prim want the hunger games after all of that. If I was Katniss I would have said no.

        • Maria

          Thats what I was thinking. I mean, since when did Prim ever like the hunger games. I would of said not too!!!

          • Dina

            i reckon she said she did want it only because she was already planning to kill coin. haymitch got that and agreed too. only cos he understood… I dont think that makes sense.???

          • Amber

            I also think Katniss agreed to the games just to distract Coin from her other plans.

            “I weigh my options carefully, think everything through. Keeping my eye on the rose, I say ‘I vote yes…for Prim.’”

            I think the fact that she had her eye on the rose meant she was keeping in mind what Snow had told her about Coin and the hovercraft that killed Prim. She wanted to get back at Coin and end the power struggle cycle.

            “…but I can feel Haymitch watching me. This is the moment, then. When we find out exactly just how alike we are, and how much he truly understands me.”

            “‘I’m with the Mockingjay’, he says.”

            The books have frequently referred to the fact that Haymitch and Katniss seem to know what each other are thinking and where they are heading. (One kiss = food in the games, etc.) I also think its important that he says “I’m with the Mockingjay” and not with Katniss. The Mockingjay, a simple symbol, created by the districts to end oppression by all leaders.

            When it comes time to assassinate Snow, she looks into his face and knows that everything he told her was true. He is already spitting blood and the insanity of the crowd will kill him anyway. Katniss looks to the future threat – Coin.

            I would have also liked to know more about the trial and its outcome. What were the major lines of thought for banishing her? Did it ever surface that Coin had killed all those children for her own ends? Did it ever surface that Coin was just as bad as Snow?

          • Aorourke

            Having a hunger games with the capitol kids was an ALTERNATIVE to killing every capitol citizen. The most humane thing to do is vote like katniss did, right? Only like 20 capitol citizens dead?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5ZUHPNERZCRYKM6AJHAWTQP5YE MiraOh

        It kinda reminds me of how kids, when they grow up with abuse and swear they will never do that to someone else, that they will never abuse others the way that they have been abused but then they do end up abusing others as adults. That’s what happened with Katniss, maybe.

      • Upsydaisy731

        I think katniss voted yes because she realized, or thought at that time, that she couldn’t break the cycle and it would keep on repeating regardless. Ironically, she is able to break the cycle later by killing coin.

    • Nancy

      I felt that it was when the idea of another Hunger Game was introduced that Katniss knew that Coin was as bad as Snow and that she would have to killer her. I think that the yes vote was to end the discussion because Katniss wanted to get on with what she had to do. I saw Coin’s death coming. It was Prim and Finnick that surprised me.

    • Nadir Pinto

      I think Katniss killed Coin because she realized that coin was no different from Snow. They where both going to be oppressing the people. I believe that Katniss said yes to the hunger games cause she wanted the capitol people to feel what the people of panem where feeling. The difference between Gales’ bloodthirst is that he didn’t who got hurt during the process while the hunger games would only target the leaders children.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5ZUHPNERZCRYKM6AJHAWTQP5YE MiraOh

        Yeah. But violence only begats (sp?) more violence. There has to be someone strong enough to rise above the Hunger Games and eventually put a stop to them.

    • nickelnick

      i am not. she went through two of the games and also they did that for 75 years. i think one game isnt that bad. i mean those children didnt know what it was like to not have anything to eat. so yeah this didnt surprise me

    • Emilyanne45

      But the book talks about Katniss and Haymitch knowing each other enough to read what they were thinking. They both knew the new Games would be just as wrong, so Haymitch agreed in front of Coin maybe for distraction. Coin makes sure to tell Snow about the games, which explains Snow’s laughter after Katniss kills Coin.

    • Penguinfans

      They voted yes only so she would have the chance to kill Coin.

  • Hannah

    Well, I didn’t like the book as much as the first and second one. I loved Cinna and wanted him to be back in this one. I was very disappointed that Finnick died. And Prim dying? That was even more of a shock. Overall, I didn’t like the book. I liked parts, but the book was very disappointing. :( I thought it was not a good way to end the book. I liked Peeta and Katniss together but other than that, it wasn’t very good. It left me depressed.

    • Pattie

      I agree. I was disappointed in some parts of the ending, kinda because there seemed to be no real winners. I wanted katnis to be victorious I guess. Also all the deaths of the beloved characters, it was so depressing. And 13 turned out to be kind of a sad place. Ruled with an iron fist by another oppressive leader. I didn’t blame her for killing Coin in the end. That was a good surprise. Katnis and Peeta ending up together seemed like 2 semi crazy people shuffling around till the ends of their lives, not like a happy marriage or a culmination of all they’d been through.

      • Jack

        I agree too the book felt rushed and hard too follow at some points. it felt out of place theat prim died. it was like “oh, PS. prim died” I could have waited longer for a more finised book but i still deeply enjoyed the books.

    • Logan

      I think what made it such a great ending was that it didn’t follow are expectation or what we wanted it to be. It became more real as the people that meant the most to us were killed to us literaly or mentally as I know no one can think of Gale the same way.

      • Dina

        In other words, it was highly unpredictable. I was totally going team gale there, but after what happened to prim, there’s no way katniss should be with him. All in all, peeta was the one for her.

    • Tiffany

      I was so disappointed in the ending of Mockingjay. I understand that some people like it because “it’s realistic,” but I don’t find it so realistic that she and Peeta like never move on. War obviously effects people, but I don’t think people think about war and death constantly for the rest of their lives.
      And I think the biggest reason for my disappointment is that after three books, I loved these characters. It was so incredibly haunting and saddening to see the book end in utter despair for my main character Katniss! It felt like she had no happy times in store for her in the future, and I feel like she deserved something for everything she had sacrificed and experienced.
      The last point that was unsatisfactory was she never really decided Peeta was the one for her. I mean, he just like showed up, and Gale just moved on. And that was the end of it. I wanted… something. Was the fact Gale unknowingly created something that would eventually kill her sister the ultimatum that resulted in no way for happiness with him? I think Peeta was the right one for her, but still… nothing solid. Nothing she had chosen.

    • Dina

      I 100% agree with you there. After reading the first and second books, I was expecting another really good book to end the trilogy, but it was all too rushed and in the end it didn’t seem like a very happy ending. It was all very depressing with all the people dying. I think Collins should have also told us about what happened to the others in the end like about haymich, her mother and what hapened to the capitol or the rest of panem. What really kills me is how she didnt name her two kids. I really wish she named them.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5ZUHPNERZCRYKM6AJHAWTQP5YE MiraOh

      Most definitely. I love the first two books and can listen to them (I LOVE the narrator’s voice; her name is Carolyn McCormick, I believe) over and over, but I can’t listen to Mockingjay over and over. It just sucks the life out of me and leaves me feeling dysthymic. I know that was the point, but it would take too much effort to read again, I feel. Maybe later.

    • albinorhino

      That’s exaclty how I felt after I finished at two in the morning; depressed. I could barely muster up enough focus to finish the damn thing after Prim died. The one thing we all knew about Katniss from the beginning was that she would do anything to protect her sister. That’s the only thing Katniss was ever sure about. Ironically, volunteering for Prim in the first Hunger games may have actually been the moment that certained Prim’s death. Had Katniss let Prim participate, perhaps Prim would have survived, and if so, it’s extrememely unlikely Prim would have started the huge rebellion that Katniss did during the games. The rebellion that ended up killing Prim, started by Katniss…..

      I still just can’t believe it. There wasn’t a real winner. I felt like the real reason Katniss joined the rebellion was for Prim. To protect her. Yea, Katniss and Peeta ended up together and had kids, but after Prims’ death, her mother and Gale disappearing from her life (forever?), and her months of depressed living, it seemed, from Katniss’s eyes, everything happened for naught. The living through TWO games, the overthrow of the rebellion (which her being unconscious during was disappointing, but I accepted a little into the third book that her involvement wasn’t what we’re used to when we think of a “hero” due to all of her time in the hospital), everything she went through was pointless now.

      I’m still in this weird, blank, empty, sort of semi-depressed mode thanks to this book. I’m not upset with Collins. She just wanted something that people would remember her work by. She wanted something to happen that signified how awful war, people, the world in general can be. She did a good job not letting into the desire to write the expected, happy ending we always so desperately want and sticking to the point she was trying to make.

      I just hope I’m able to convince myself that Prim didn’t really die enough to go see the movies.

      • Brittany

         Completely agree with your view on this. It seemed very rushed, and as readers who were so addicted to this series, I felt cheated by the ending. I get that it’s supposed to be a depressing ending, but it felt so… unfinished and blah.

    • Brittany

       Completely agreed! I thought it would be this amazing ending, but it felt so unrealistic and rushed, and poof peeta is back to his old self? I was very confused after finishing this book. The 2nd one was my favorite by far.

  • Rosilis

    This whole thing started because Katniss took Prim’s place in the Hunger Games. Everything she suffered throughout all of this relates back to that point because if Prim was never picked, Katniss would have never had to go to the games, never would have to be mentored by Haymitch and be Peeta’s lover, President Snow never would have been after her, and the revolution never would have even started in the first place. But yet Cinna, Finnick, Boggs, Madge, and the bulk of 12′s population would still be alive…

    So it was quite a horrible disapointment when Prim died. Because Prim was like, the reason for this all. She was the roots. So I can’t believe she died. Poor Katniss.
    But if there was no Prim, there would have been no revolution, soooooooooo
    Good for her.

    I can’t believe Buttercup made it when Prim didn’t. Because she always wanted to protect him, even though he was just a cat. That’s when I started crying. I like how the books started out with Buttercup and kinda ended with him, though.

    • Dina

      But if prims name was never called, there would be nothingto talk about in the books.

  • BooBoolover

    I balled my eyes out when Prim died. And the through out the rest of the book. It took me 1 hour and a half to read chapters 25,26,27 cuz i couldnt stop crying. I love the Hanging tree song. The bigest OMG moment(besides Prims death) for me was when she killed Coin. I was like YEAH GO KATNISS!! I love that Katniss ends up with Peeta, but i wish Peeta whouldnt have been like that in the book. I love the idea of the book they made at the end. It was so creative and i started crying remembering all the people. Over all i cried so much in this book but it is a GREAT book and I absolutley loved it.

    • Dina

      I mostly cried in the end where she talks about all the people who were important to her that died. Agreed that it was a great book. I absolutely loved it. and now im obsessed!

  • Jessica

    I’ve been a huge Hunger Games fan since the beginning and while I will say that Mockingjay is a quality book it was not my favorite. I know that alot of the book was focused on the war for a reason and that Collins really had to delve deep into that aspect. What I don’t understand is why she would leave the ending so tangled. I feel like after Coin died Collins got tired of writing or had a deadline to meet because alot of it felt too fast, then all of a sudden Peeta was there, all of a sudden Katniss loved him, then they have kids, the end. I was rooting for Peeta the whole time and wished the ending could have been less anticlimactic, or that she would have at least had more of an epilouge, I mean c’mon she never even named the kids.

    • Dina

      I agree to all of what you said. I also feel that she was not really a winner at the end, if that makes sense. It was like Katniss just did all of that for nothing and she didnt get anything out of it or really enjoyed the rest of her life after the hunger games and the war was over.

      I dont know if that makes sense at all…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5ZUHPNERZCRYKM6AJHAWTQP5YE MiraOh

        It’s like Katniss will never be truly happy. She’s gonna be like that one character’s mother who always has headaches for the rest of her life. Katniss will never again be a whole person; she will only be partly alive, partly awake, partly human, partly…anything. It’s not that her innocence is gone (that happened long ago with the death of her father and the realization that she would have to provide for her family), it’s like an actual piece of her soul has been chipped away and will never, ever be fixed.

    • Brittany

       Completely agree with this!!

  • Corinne

    I loved it and couldn’t put it down, but one thing is sticking out in my mind. Why did Katniss say yes to another Hunger Games? I don’t think it was for payback. I think she wanted Haymitch to says yes – as in yes I know you are about to kill Coin and it is ok. What does everyone think?

    • Taylor

      Hmmmmm…. I don’t know. because I think that when Katniss decided to kill Coin, it was a very spontaneous decision versus a planned one like you are implying. But, that does give a completely knew angle to look at it. thank you. (:

      • Veaon

        Well how I see it is that Katniss was angry at the Capitol, for she perceived the hovercraft that killed Prim was president Snow’s doing. That is why she chooses yes for another Hunger Games… “for Prim” in order to avenger her death. It is only during the spur of the moment when she is about to shoot president Snow that she realized that the hovercraft was actually Coin’s and thus shot at Coins instead.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5ZUHPNERZCRYKM6AJHAWTQP5YE MiraOh

      Do you think Katniss could have just been a little “unhinged” at that point? A little batty/crazy? That all the death and violence and war had gotten to her on a deeper level and so that’s why she said yes to the Hunger Games for the Capitol’s children?

  • http://seasidewarriors.proboards.com Brittney

    With everything that happened in Mockingjay, overall I hated the book. I hated it, but loved it all the same. I love that Katniss and Peeta end together and not Katniss and Gale! (YAY!!!) I honestly can’t stand Gale, he was a jerk to her through out the whole trilogy. Anyways, there are so many holes in Mockingjay it’s like the book is made of Swiss Cheese. Why did only some videos of Katniss make Peeta freak out? Why did Prim die? Why was Prim in the Captiol anyways?!?!?!?! Why did Katniss vote for another Hunger Games? To be honest I would vote yes to another Hunger Games for the Capitol. I want revenge, and I want it good. (if that doesn’t sound to creeperish.) But, it’s children, and I don’t want anything to happen to children. People who hurt children are just sick, but I dunno, I guess I’m sick myself.

    I was rather upset though about how the whole thing ended. I honestly felt like a crazy person reading the book. I literally think I’m going crazy anyway. But of course, Katniss was crazy. She was slowly going crazy at the end of the second book. Mockingjay was literally an emotional roller coaster. Collins likes to get into your head with her books. And so do I with mine. But this one hit my core like nothing I’ve ever read.

    I just wish that I could talk to Suzanne Collins for 2-3 hours. To get all of my questions cleared up. And I hope she reads this so I can talk to her, but I doubt she will.

    I was so upset when Finnick died. I won’t ever think that people like him are creepers ever again! Finnick and Annie’s reunion was short lived and not visited enough. I started to almost ball when I read Finnick’s story. I honestly loved him in those books. Now I’m going to re-read Catching Fire and catch on all of his little “secrets”.

    Wow, I’m just venting all of my angers through this. But Collins never did say why Prim was in the front lines of the war. And how did she end up in that box anyways? She’s not Capitol! Oh wells, maybe someone can clear all of this up for me. ^^ In the mean time, I’ll try to hold onto my sanity.

    • Bri4never

      Well said! The ending was just a big mess. One second its war and then the next is Peeta returning to normal. The book was an emotional rollercoaster. I want to know why Katniss agreed to another hunger games. but any way, i agree 100%

    • Divinity

      This book was definately emotional and perhaps had me questioning my sanity a bit as well. Regarding you question about Prim. I believe coin set Prim up to die to get to Katniss. She menitoned how they were training her to be a dr. and towards the end when Katniss is trying to figure out what happened she felt as though it was a set up. at the time she thought it was the captiol. They knew the medics would run in to save to children after the explosion and then the second set of bombs goes off killing the medics…aka….Prim.

      I suspected Katniss would kill Coin and glad she did. Snow was dying anyway so it would have been a waste of a bullet.

      I loved the book but admit i was a bit depressed after reading it. I enjoy books that engage my emotions. I was very glad she ended up with Peeta although i wish it would have been a bit happiness for them. after all they went through their characters definately deserved it. I guess them having kids and being together is a happy ending in and of itself.

    • http://seasidewarriors.proboards.com Brittney

      Wow, I never thought people would reply to this! lol! I like hearing everyone’s comments on the book. *glares at book* I am re-reading myself, certainly not loosing my sanity with this one. I’ll hold onto the small amount I have left. ^-^

      After reading it the first time, I Know I missed somethings which is why I’m re-reading it. I’m really going to focus on Prim’s death, what went wrong, why she was there, pick up the little things that make a BIG difference. It may sound sadistic but I wish we would’ve had Finnick’s death more…specified, detailed. I want some last, loving bit left of him that I could hold onto. Something along the lines of,

      “Katniss! Don’t-” And the sound of many rows of teeth tearing flesh cuts his voice from ever being heard again. Even though he didn’t finish what he was going to say, I still know. Katniss, don’t give into them. But now Finnick is lost forever, leaving Annie by herself. No, not by herself, I thought I heard them saying something about a “little surprise”. But I don’t have time to dwell on that with the eerie whispers of “Katniss.” growling behind me.—

      Something like that!!!! lol!

    • Paige

      I think that Prim went to the Capitol because she thought Katniss was dead, so she went there to help others from dying. She could have figured out she was alive, but it would be too late for her to go back to 13.

    • Dina

      wow, you really know how to reflect on all that. I just really want to know how peeta gets back to normal, does it mention that in the book? Because he comes back all hijacked and wants to kill katniss and all of a sudden shes back with him and loves him. All too quick for me.

    • Veaon

      To defend a little bit on Gale, it just seemed like Collins made him into more of a jerk in the last book… I mean really, I dont see any of Gale’s “fire kindled with hatred…” in the first two books. But then again maybe I am wrong, but to me it seems like Gale’s personality in Mockingjay have been altered a little bit in order to justify the the reason Katniss picks Peeta. I really didn’t enjoy the ending entirely. I am glad she picked Peeta but overall it was rushed.

    • Baysings

      How did prim die anyway!!!???

    • Baysings

      How did prim die anyway!!!???

    • S_hoxsie

      To answer your first question about why certain videos made peeta freakout, its because the capitol only had certain videos. The ones that did not trigger him were ones that the capitol did not have access to in order to highjack those memories.

      I don’t know why Collins killed Prim but my assumption is that it was some sort of statement about the truth of war or it was in order to incapacitate Katniss and perhaps discredit her if she were to go against Coin or even to put her on Coin’s side.

      I feel that Prim was intentionally put in theCapitol by Coin for the above reasons. Prim was used as more of a means to an end.

      I didn’t really understand why she would vote for a hunger games but I do think it was a realization Katniss now came to thatt Coin would be just as bad as Snow. I’m not convinced she knew yet how she would kill Coin but i think she knew she had to.

      I liked the book mostly because it felt real. Things rarely turn out perfect and violence usually ends up with a lot of collateral damage. I also looked at it as more of a tragedy than a happy story cause in the end, war is always tragic. One of the things I really liked was how when Katniss was out of sorts, so was the writing to an extent. Prim’s death wasn’t super clear because Katniss’, our narrators, mind was not clear. Its the same effect when you’re in an accident. You can’t remember much cause it happens too fast for your mind to actually comprehend what is happening.

  • kristine

    i actually really like both peeta and gale and although i wanted her to end up with peeta, i was kinda surprised that she did in the end. a part of me wanted her to be with gale as well. i was also surprised that they ended up having children in the end, because there was such finality to it that kinda stated “hey this is the end of the trilogy” if that makes sense. i was really upset that gale is no longer part of her life in the end. he just became a guy she used to know. i loved gale’s character and i was so upset that he is all the way in district two and is not katniss’s best friend anymore.

    • Aaron

      You must realise though that after asking whether he was involoved he must have known he was otherwise he would admit it and so katniss immediately hated him out of the bitterness she had towards Prims death. I think Gale was destined to do something terrible as you could see the difference the war had done to him, it was only a matter of time…

      • Dina

        exactly that!

    • Dina

      how could gale do that? (kill prim and all those children)
      He was part of her life and she really cared about him. And I agree to what you said about how gale isnt even in her life in the end. I think they would have been even betterfriends if he stayed but maybe not so much now that i think about how he liked katniss as well as peeta so there would have been some rivalry there.
      I dont know :/

  • Mackenzie

    Hey guys I loved mocking jay bc I was team bread boy! but I got sad when Peeta was changed but I was posative he would change back but as you guys said they didn’t really get a happily ever after it was just picking up the pieces after the damage was done. What I wanted to know was what happens to gale? Does he fall in love with someone else? What kind of job does he have? Is he really even alive? thx lemme no what you think my favorite quote was “So that’s when I think of every act of goodness I’ve ever seen, it’s like a game I play and after 20 years it is a little tedious, But there are much worse games to play” What a way to end it referring to the first and second books hunger games I loved it! thx bye

    • Samantha

      I agree with everything you said! I just want to know why Gale has just let her go so easily? do they even talk anymore? Does Peeta have the same love for Katniss as before? I wish that there was another book so that all questions about Katniss’ love life, what the country is like now, how Gale’s love life/job is, how Katniss’ mom is, and I want to know if Katniss and Peeta are allowed to go anywhere(like the capitol)????

      • Dina

        I want know what happenes in the other districts as well. like if everything went back to normal and if the capitol even exists.

      • S_hoxsie

        Could you go back to being close with someone you might be sure had a hand in your sisters death? I think that was the tipping point and they would never be abke to go back to what they were. Neither of them will ever know for sure if it was Gales trap and that is enough to cause a lot of resentment

  • Monica

    This book really messed with my head! All the deaths in it, finding out Cinna’s dead, Finnick dying after so little time with Annie, then of course Prim who Katniss has tried to protect right from the beginning of the first book… Those last two made me cry.
    Then near the end where Katniss and Haymitch say yes to there being a final Hunger Games – that made me so angry! It made me start disliking Katniss. It went against everything else you learned about her in the previous books, made it seem like it was all a façade.
    As for the ending with Peeta, I also thought she would just live out her days alone. I was also always team Gale, so it was a bit of a blow when I realised she’d picked Peeta and that Gale had just disappeared from her life. I kind of always knew that if she HAD to, she’d pick Peeta anyway, but did Gale really have to disappear from her life like that?
    I’m not sure if I liked Mockingjay. It was good but in a bad way, if that makes sense.

    • Divinity

      I felt like Katniss agreed to the Hunger Games to make Coin think she was supportive. I don’t believe she truly wanted it. I think Haymitch picked up on that an agreed. In regards to Gale, i think he helped her make that decision by walking away. I think if he would have stayed it would have been harder on her so he chose to walk away. I do think Katniss and Peeta belonged together. Gale’s character became too dark. The book does mess with your head though. I probably should not have finished it right before i went to bed.

    • Alex

      I agree like atleast have Gale in her life in some way don’t just drop him. And when they talked about him with probally another girl “kissing somone elses lips” I was about to cry! I mean her best friend just gone with a better life, and just forgeting about her… That’s not what I thought should of happened! And also with the prim, she is the reason Katniss had the will to sty alive was for her and her family! And her mother, Katniss never saw her again because of the memories it was just a horrible ending.

  • Taylor

    I was literally sobbing when Prim had gotten blown up! And, i think that Cinna should have been in the book. Would have been a lot easier for poor Katniss. I’m crying right now just thinking about Prims death! It’s depressing.

  • Twefrence

    I just finished Mockingjay.
    I was soo shocked when Finnick died, I could literally imagine him being torn apart, half mangled with tortured eyes, just like Cato’s in the Hunger Games with the mutts. How I longed for him to live, as his moment of happiness only lasted for such a short time and Annie was still waiting for him to arrive safely back to district 13.
    Prim’s death was somehow inevitable, it was as if fate wanted her to die in the first place. Though if it wasn’t for her being chosen for the 74th hunger games, this uprising wouldn’t have happened. The mockingjay(Katniss) would have never been born and it is as if her mission has been accomplished – for the rebels to overthrow the Capitol.
    I never thought I could hate the Capitol or more specifically President Snow so much, even when he was just a fictional character. This hatred slowly gained as I read through the book and each pod that got triggered just inflicted more and more torturous and ruthless devices that not only killed them but even the peacekeepers. On how the capitol could come up with and invent all these merciless weapons that made me shudder and cringe from.
    I kept on craving for Peeta to be safe and not tortured in the beginning, but it only got worse when I wanted to scream for them to stop beating Peeta up when he warned them about the bombing.
    I felt so desperate and angered when Peeta was hijacked and all they could do was seperate him from Katniss.
    I pitied the way Peeta was helpless and could do nothing to fight away the bad memories and to stay true to himself.
    It was expected for Coin and Snow to die. Katniss never liked Coin and it was plain to see that she was the one who bombed the children and how Snow was about to die from the poison he had consumed anyway.
    I gasped when I recognized Rue’s song and I could feel Katniss’s agony of all the people who suffered and died for or because of her. I knew that Cinna would have never survived, he was probably dead by the time the 75th Hunger Games started.
    The ending was somehow unsatisfying and hurried as Collins tried to tie everything up and I was glad Katniss ended up with Peeta. He was the only one who suffered with her and could bring her happiness and hope, not like Gale who had his mind on revenge and anger.
    Though the ending was depressing it was true and believable. As both Katniss and Peeta would not be able to revert back to their original states but they can try to cope with the broken pieces and manage as well as they can.
    Which lead me to thinking, is this what would happen one day? When our world has somehow had an apocalypse?

    • Sofia

      Prim died… WHY? I think she was the main character in the book not Katniss, everything started because of her… Sometimes I wish she was never even born. Then Finnick, Mags, Madge, Cinna, and everyone else would have stayed alive. And Gale might not have even disappeared from Katniss’s life.
       Overall, the book was quite depressing, but I loved it. Even though I hated the part where Katniss said yes to another Hunger Games. But then, she wasn’t completely sane. She was crippled by the death of Prim, and Cinna, and Finnick. She hated (and so did I) what Gale had done. But this book was very philosophical. I cried my eyes out, but it provoked very deep thoughts from me. I think about this book 24/7.

      • albinorhino

        I know how you feel Sofia. I just finished last night and I literally couldn’t sleep. When I did, I would only find nightmares of death and despair. Prim. Gale and Katniss’s mother leaving. Finnick. Peeta completely losing his mind and never really gaining it back. And Katniss. All she ever wanted was Prim safe. It literally breaks my heart every time I think about it. I could barely stop tears from slowing moving down my face last night to fall asleep to my nightmares. It’s almsot as though I can feel her pain, and if not completely, I want to. It’s hard for me to say that I loved the third book simply because I’m not sure how long it’ll take me to get out of this depressed, helpless feeling because of it. The only thing I want is to go back and re-read it to find Prim didn’t really die. I just misread. 

  • Hadley

    I’m still not sure if i liked Mockingjay or not… too many characters who I loved died! I couldn’t believe when Prim got blown up, but I was the saddest when Finnick died. His character had developed so much from when we first saw him in Catching Fire, and he had just been reunited with Annie too! Overall, I think it was pretty good, but i didn’t like how pretty much half the book was focused on that ONE mission. I also thought the ending was rushed.

  • http://www.daemonsbooks.com Amie

    Great discussion guys! I finished the series yesterday and agree that Mockingjay was full of OMG moments. I loved what Katniss did to Coin. She turned out to be no better than snow in my opinion. I was SHOCKED when she suggested bringing back the Hunger Games and even more shocked when Kantiss voted for it! I was happy with what Katniss did in the end though. I agree with Kristen, the best quote for me was also

    Peeta: “You love me. Real or not real?
    Katniss: “Real.”

    I’m glad she ended up with Peeta but felt like it was really sad what happened to both him and Gale…and pretty much everybody who survived now that I think about it.

    What I liked about this book is that the author didn’t try to make Katniss be this super likable hero. A lot of the characters in the series don’t really like her that much and many admit to liking Peeta better. Personally I liked Katniss. Even though she got on my nerves at times I left like her own self-loathing along with the fact that a lot of people hated her as well made me like her even more.

    • christine

      i really didn’t like the “you love me. real or not real?/ real.” lines. peeta has been devoted to katniss for so long and when she finally comes around he has to get it out of her instead of her initiating and finding a way to share her feelings.

      • Anonymous

        Or how about “i’m his, he’s mine”  from Catching Fire.  Oh, that’s right since Gale said it you forget about it.

  • shai

    you guys are not to bright i got all the things right away i did love it whaen peeta said ‘you love me real or not real’ and she said ‘real’ omg my heart nearly stopped lol

    • shai

      just joking guys lol with the not to bright thingy

    • damemel

      I was gunna say. Because it’s “too” not “to.”

  • Alexis

    I thought the book was good for the first 3/4 of it. When Finnick died, I began disliking the book. And then when Prim died, I thought that was too much, and I just wanted the book to end. And then when Haymitch and Katniss voted for more Hunger Games, wasn’t that what you wanted to STOP?! And I don’t know about other people, but I never liked Peeta and thought Katniss should be with Gale. But, I thought after Katniss killed Coin, the book was SLOW and DEPRESSING….

    But I have to say overall, the first 3/4 ‘s was good, and after Suzanne Collins rushed things in the sewer place and began killing everyone, I didn’t like the book. It was then official when Prim died… :’(

    Finnick was one of my favorite characters, and so was Prim. I blame Coin for Prim, but even though Gale was one of my favorite characters, I blame him for Finnick. Yea I know, they would have died if they tried saving him, but just to ignore it and leave him to die…? At least Katniss cared, but it seems no one else cared that he died. (Besides Annie)

    I don’t believe it was fair to kill Prim, but what can I do? It was sad….
    Was it just me or does NOBODY really care that all the characters are dying?

    AND NOW, overall the book was good at the beginning, and then I hated it. So I have to say, Suzanne Collins could have done better.

  • Livi

    I actually made it through the whole book without crying, until Buttercup showed up again. The whole, ‘Prim isn’t coming back’ thing totally killed me. I still don’t know if i liked it or not, but i do like that it wasn’t a perfect fairytale ending, it was more realistic like a real war. Though i don’t see the point in killing Finnick *sob*. Gale should’ve died, he’s just floating around in District 2 somewhere now.

    • Gabby

      Livi i did the same as you, i totally held it together until the buttercup part then lost it… I still cant get over prims death or finnicks…. Im so glad that katniss and peeta are together but sometimes i feel things will never ever be the same between them.: that they wont ever love each other the same way because of snow. I think about this book 24/7 and cant let go of it! By far the best book iv read in my life

  • Tyler Wishard

    Ok.. Honestly I didnt like this book as much as I thought I would.. Yes it was very intresting, but I hated how all the action was pretty much at the end of the book and not through out.. I got very tired of District 13.

  • Banana

    I loved this series until the end of Mockingjay. Like many of you have said there are a lot of unresolved topics and OMG’s!! but most of all i think she could have written an additional 20 pages.. including information of the new economy and Katniss’s mother, but most of all about her an Peeta getting together.

    I believe Peeta was the best for her for the reasons stated in the book. I found the whole love triangle very moving and it really captivated me and made me love the characters so much that I was thoroughly dissapointed in the lack of description of how Peeta and Katniss finally end up together.

    The end of the book left me feeling depressed, confused and disappointed… and mainly just depressed! 20 more pages could have turned that book into an EXCELLENT ending to the trio, however, I think im going to have to create a more descriptive ending in my head so I can find peace, haha.

    • Kailey

      Banana, I feel your pain. I wanted more of an explanation too. I think we deserve that much, Suzanne put us through about 8 excruciating chapters of them running around in the Capitol before getting to the point. And then didn’t tell us what the heck was going on at the end. Loved the book, but the ending could have been MARVELOUS. sigh…

  • silentwanderings

    I think this book could of been so good.. If not for the ending. I was rooting for Peeta the whole time, and bawled when Katniss first realizes he’s been hijacked. She sees this happy reunion with Annie/Finnick, and then discovers the boy she truly loves is a monster.. I feel like Collins is trying to appeal to a wider audience with the third book by adding more war scenes. She shocked us right into a more realistic view from the beginning. In general, the book had a cold, dark feeling.
    THE ENDING!-
    I feel like the ending was so muddled and vague because we were viewing it from Katniss’s eyes. Katniss was so depressed/ apathetic, she isn’t going to tell much.. we’re living through her. I feel like she lost the will to live in the end, and the surprise of Peeta’s return wasn’t even enough to help her be happier. And the fact that Gale.. the boy who was her other half for all those years, just gets a high-up job and forgets her? That made me sad. And Haymitch.. we didn’t really find out what happens to him in the end. Overall, this left me depressed. Realistic? sure. Good ending to a trilogy? .. Not so much.

    • Kailey

      I couldn’t agree more, I hate that she lost her best friend. Although it wouldn’t have been the same with her always wondering if he had ultimately killed her sister. I also hate that her mother couldn’t suck up her problems and be there to console her ONLY remaining family so they could be there for each other. I think that Peeta did make her happy there at the end, but it was a close one. She had lost the will to live; Peeta got there just in time to help her keep her sanity. I liked the book… but it could have been amazing. I mean, even more amazing than the first half/three quarters were.

    • Emily

      I felt as you did about Peeta, hoping they’d get together until I realized his character changed so drastically that he wasn’t the Peeta I loved in the first two books. And I agree this book had a cold, dark feeling, not saying that the first two were warm and fuzzy, but definately a darker side to our beloved characters.

      I think you nailed it with saying that we are viewing the ending through Katniss’s eyes which means that we are seeing it through her warped view, which we should even take in account through the whole reading. And it is unsatisfying to write off Gale and Haymitch, but again, if it’s through her eyes, she probably wrote them off because it’s too painful to uncover anymore details. Thus, leaving us out too.

      However, I do not agree that this book is more appealing to a wider audience. I think the opposite is true. The technology, war aspect and the lack of romance makes it less apealing than the first two. For the young adult genre, I don’t think they desire the horrific carnage, after all, we read to escape reality and this reflected a lot of reality.

  • Donna

    I could feel the tightening in my chest the whole time I was reading the Mockingjay. I could not make up my mind if I loved the book or hated it. I loved how Collins kept it real. Mockingjay was all about the war. 75 years of the hunger games – of being oppressed and being ruled by the Capitol was bound to take its toll in all of the people. With such intense emotions, I wasn’t expecting anyone to survive this unscathed physically and emotionally. I love how Collins presented the war and its after effect to the people – esp Katniss, Peeta, Gale, Haymitch, the Victors and all the survivors. Katniss and Peeta will never be the same again after the Hunger Games and especially after the war. They were so broken after which I think draw them together because only they can understand and comfort each other after what they’ve been through. It’s so sad because just like any war real or fictional – no one really emerges victorious.

    I hated the hopelessness of the situation in the book but I think that was what kept the whole book real. Because not everything ends happily. Sometimes you just have to get on with your life. It tugs at your heart because everyone wanted freedom but a lot of people had to die – including Prim, Cinna and Finnick (my 3 faves). And Katniss felt the burden of all these deaths and this guilt finally has taken its toll on her. I think she was just tired, angry and resigned to the whole situation that’s why she just said Yes to the Hunger Games.

    There were no real victors from the whole thing. Except maybe the future kids of Peeta and Katniss, who will only know about the Hunger Games and the war through History classes in school. At least Suzanne Collins ended the book with an offering to readers that the future generations benefited from the cause. And, I love how she added Annie and Finnick’s baby. At least Annie was left with a reminder of her husband.

  • Kailey

    I was so sad that Gale just completely dropped out of Katniss’s life. Although there was no way that she could be with him, always wondering if his bomb killed Prim… and it was better that way, a clean break instead of a gradual goodbye. I was hoping that Peeta would end up with Katniss. I knew that he would pull through in the end :D

    I read the part about Prim dying wrong… I had to go back and reread it twice before I realized what was happening. I loved Prim, but it wasn’t a shock that she would die trying to save someone else. So that was justifiable for me.

    I especially enjoyed when Buttercup refused to leave Katniss, like all along he really did love her, even if it didn’t seem like it.

    Finnick shouldn’t have died. He and Annie should have moved in next to Katniss and Peeta and had their kids grow up together.

    Octavia, Fulvia, and that other one were too depressed for my taste at the end. Especially when they cried because Katniss’s body was too far gone to restore it to “Beauty Base Zero.” It was pitiful. Suzanne probably could have clued us in to what they were doing afterward so we wouldn’t forever remember them as miserable people.

    I loved the Hanging Tree song, but it still gives me the creeps. A dead guy is beckoning his lover to hang himself next to her so they can be together… ughh. Cool song though. Rue’s song is still my favorite.

    I knew when Peeta and Soldier Jackson started playing “Real or Not Real” (haha.. Deal or No Deal) that he was going to say “You love me. Real or Not Real?” I love it when that happens.

    The ending felt too rushed for me. She could have gone into more detail about what was happening several times. I didn’t pick up on Prim’s death, Coin’s death, Finnick’s death; at the end I almost read right past Peeta coming back; Peeta’s recovery was too fast and too little explained, I wanna know what it was that finally made him better; the epilogue was way too rushed. I want to know more about their kids, about district 12. About Katniss’s mom. About Gale. About Annie and her child. Oh, well, I’ll make up some sort of ending for all of them, I suppose. :P

    • Butterflyfeather

      I totally agree with everything.
      I feel like the ending basically consisted of two paragraphs. So it was like a whoel book of depressing action and gore and Peeta being crazy and tortured.
      and then the ending of “and then he got better and we got together. kthnxbye.” the end.

      I mean. I know a LOT of time passed before Peeta came back, half a year.But it was much too rushed.

      I got VERY confused when Prim dead.
      At first I had no idea what was going on, if Katniss was having one of her day dreams or something because it was SO confusing. So I also had to re-read it a couple of times be fore saying. “Omg… that REALLY just happened?!” I felt like the whole point of the book was lost when Prim died. :/

      And Finnick… It reminded me of a certain couple’s death in Harry Potter. I dislike it when great characters that are about or just had a child die. It just doesn’t seem right to me.

    • http://twitter.com/stephclyne19 Stephanie Hechanova

      Agree. Agree.

  • Aaron

    I myself have never been so affected by a book in my whole life. Prims death was the most sad thing I have ever read and when she tries to explain it to Buttersup I felt so torn. This is coming from a boy! I thought Finnicks death was way to quick and didnt have much effect on me as I thought it would. Coin’s death was well deserved and it took me a while to finally put all the pieces together. I admit I found the ending very rushed and was ended too quickly, there could have been a whole book between the war and the end I think but then again maybe not. If it was up to me I would have had less people with katniss when she went to kill snow as it seemed to quick with Collins focusing on how they would die instead of the emotional ride katniss has, I think the people should have been Gale, Peeta, Finnick, Boggs, Johanna, the camera crew and Katniss of course not all the soilders.

    When the children died I felt such anger at what was happening I was shocked at how much this book had got to me. I have never reacted to something so badly it was scary. I hope there is some sort of seires sequal but I doubt there would be. The film they are making better be good or I SWEAR that I will go over to lionsgate and send a arrow through the directors heart. If it is some no gore,no emmotion, no action piece of film which would earn a PG rating I will just not bother with films anymore.

    Overall the book was the most fantastic, brilliant, emmotionaly thought-provoking masterpieces that has will ever be made and I thank Collins for bringing this work of genius to life. LONG LIVE THE MOCKINGJAY!

  • nickelnick

    omg i cried only during rues death and prims. still crying

    • Gabbyabi

      Rue’s death was horrifying i judt balled my eyes out

  • Emily

    I read the series back to back, and in doing this it is as if Mockingjay is a separate book from the first two. If you were to put all three of these into a mass book, the third would create a definite distinction from the first two-thirds. Where reading through the first two is like skating on ice, the third is like walking in snow. If you read to fast you will miss so much and confuse yourself. The technology and war aspect in Mockingjay deserves more focus to enhance the reading.

    Katniss has changed so much, which is expected, but normally in teen books the characters maintain the perfect amount of flaws and the perfect amount of lovability, but I found it difficult to embrace Katniss because she was much more tortured and you can feel her pain and you only hope that the miracle of fiction will cure her. In this way, this makes the book so respectable and wonderful. We see such a huge transformation in the way life and in the characters. The scars are showing in each relationship, and whereas some characters grow others shrink into a shell of themselves. Katniss’s mother is much stronger, Gale is a leader in the rebel command, and Peeta is not at all as we remember him. It’s refreshing and frustrating that Collins manages this. Part of me longs for the happy ending, where there are no severe effects of the past and everyone gets on great, but part of me understands that is why Collins has done such a great thing with these books. They aren’t predictable or overly formulated. There as real as you can get in a world created in fiction.

    But after finishing Mockingjay, I didn’t feel satisfied, I felt troubled. That’s not to say I didn’t love it, but it’s not what I imagined. Although, I have to say, I couldn’t have predicted these books if I tried.

    I don’t know if I can sleep tonight, I am just running the book through my head, trying to resolve my own issues in adjusting to the loss of Prim and the Peeta-Katniss union. Just a big “wow” in my head.

    • Chris

      I spend countless hrs going peer the books in my head. I sometimes have to remind myself that I am not in the book. (:

    • Caity

      I completely agree with you!
      I was so excited to read Mockingjay, I couldn’t wait to see what would happen in the end, but then when i finally did finish it, I was so disappointed. What kind of an ending was that?
      It is of course, a sensational book, which I did enjoy, but I was left so confused and troubled by the ending. Just by adding another chapter, we would be left in peace, knowing what happened to Gale, her mother, Haymitch, Katniss and peeta’s relationship, Annie’s child.. EVERYTHING.
      I am so disappointed, I want to cry.

    • Chris

      We could use another book with there kids from one of there points of view. It wouldn’t be as exciting as the other three, but for those who read it would tie up the loose ends. I want one or two more chapters!!¡¡

  • Chris

    This was the best Series that I have ever read. I highly doubt that I will ever read books that are as good as the hunger games trilogy. I am a 13 year old. One new teacher brought 13 box sets with her for a class of 20 students. I borrowed them expecting a ok book. I was completely wrong. I areas the whole series in 3 school days. I probaly only slept 10 hrs. during the three days. Then our school librarian read them and decited that they were too violent. Now they are banned. They are violent, but not in the way that the libarian said. I don’t believe in banning books because, well it isnt right to make a authors wonderful piece of litarchure against school rules. I am, I guess you coups call a book dealer. I give them out to anyone wh wants to read them. All the teachers are against the ban. Also they are on indianas young Hoosier book list. Those books are always ok, but this year the hunger games crushed the competition. The moral is read the hunger games.

    • http://www.daemonsbooks.com/author/kristen Kristen

      Chris – It pains me to hear The Hunger Games books are banned at your school! I can’t believe a librarian would do that! I think the books are violent, but they in no way glorify violence. Good for you lending them out :)

    • Chris

      They are banned because if violence. They show more like our future if we continue to head down our current path. They are violent, but there isn’t unnessiary violence. She personally only killed 3 ( not counting tracker jackers). Most teachers are against it. I now rate books from 1 to hunger games.

    • http://www.lemonbranch.webs.com Lemonz

      Chris- Man! I suppose they are violent, but they are still a must-read for yound adults. I know that my parents were a little afraid of what I would get from these books, too.

    • Chris

      Lemonz. They in no way glorify violence but they are violent. The whole books are about how she trys to eradicate the hunger games and the Capitol. I always respond so write back and we can talk more. They are the Best books ever written. 

      • Anonymous

        I think that it’s not so much the violence that’s problematic with having them be assigned reading for school but rather the moral ambiguity of the trilogy’s ending. That’s what I found so disturbing. Also, the incident could be seen as a criticism of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (the whole bit about an expedient end to the war). Too much of a political “hot potato” for the schools…

  • http://seasidewarriors.proboards.com Brittney

    Okay, I finished re-reading Mockingjay about a week ago. I certainly held onto my sanity with this reading. I had a few questions answered like why Prim died.

    Imagine the box that was in the City Circle made from cinder blocks. Those concrete things with the big square holes in them and the children are in them. Screaming, crying and desperate to get out. Silver parachutes float down from a hover plane with the Capitol seal on it. Those kids knew what they meant. Gifts! Some hurry to grab one while others stay behind. Half of the parachutes go off and the medics from 13 rush to help them. The walls of the box are badly damaged and fell. Prim (as a District 13 medic) runs to the aid of a little one, tearing off her lab coat to lay it on a child. The other parachutes go off. It was one of Gale’s strategies. Remember when they were in the hummingbird room? Gale was talking with Beetee about how to get in a sense “more for your money.” Think about this honestly; if you saw a child in danger you would automatically respond with either a yell of “Help!” or go after the child yourself. If you put the children in danger, more are going to come. But Gale and Coin didn’t expect their own medics to come crashing through trying to help them. It was an accident.

    Now the other things I mentioned in my previous posts I still don’t know and won’t because it’s all psychological. You make it what you want.

    Someone on here said, (and please comment on it if you said it. I want to congratulate you on explaining this.) they said that most people want a fictional ending; happily ever after. When we read a book it’s like our own little world. I’ll bet anyone $10 that my Panem is different from yours. It has to be, it’s all on the way we perceive things. Anyways, (I got off track ^-^) we read to escape reality, and this book just had to much reality in it. That’s why most people who read it become unsatisfied with it.

    It’s a very hated, loved book. Hate and love can co-exist with each other. Don’t believe me? Read the series.

    • Chris

      This book is loved and hated becaus it is realistic. Unlike any other young adult book, Collins makes the story possible. What are the odds that no one dies 0%. She writes with power at some points and finess at others. She is my favorite autor.

    • http://seasidewarriors.proboards.com Brittney

      Also, I’m doing a fanfiction of the 76th Hunger Games (the one with the Capitol’s children.) If you want to read it contact me at tanichiro@live.com I’m not finished yet and won’t be for a while, but I’ll let you read what I have down.

  • Gill

    Yeah, I thought it said she killed Snow, not Coin. I had to reread it once I got to the next page. Prim’s death was the saddest for me. I think she didn’t have to die, but then Katniss probably wouldn’t have killed Coin. I think Finnick’s death didn’t get much attention. It was just “he died” and that was that. I thought Buttercup would eventually make his way back somewhere, and he did.

  • http://www.lemonbranch.webs.com Lemonz

    I just finshed Mockingjay, and I am on the verge on tears. I expected that someone important to die in the book, but I still just about puked when Prim died.

    But on the bright side, I was team Peeta all the way, so yay me C:

    • Chris

      Pretax was the best choise. I could never marry the man that made the weapon that killed my sister.

  • Peeta Fan 99

    I loved Mockingjay, i was bawling though through the entire second half. I hated how Peeta became insane and how Gale and Katniss just lost all contact, even though I am Peeta’s number one fan I couldn’t help but feel that truly, Gale and Katniss were meant to be together. And Finnick died, i was mad. but it was amazing! <33333

    • Chris

      I just finished re-reading. The waiting list at the library is 19 people long!!! It makes me happy that others will enjoy what I call the three best books ever written. I heard this song on the radio. This song sounds like catnip talking to her mom and her death wishes. Every time I hear this song I start to cry. Listen to it. It is a touching song. I think that all of the deaths of main characters is what makes us cry (da) but no other books do that. They might kill one semi important character, but Collins killed finnic and prim. Prim is the whole reason that catnip got into the hunger games and she dies.

  • Andrew

    Mockingjay = greatest book ever

    • Dina

      correction…
      hunger games trilogy = best books ever. :)

  • Alex

    I loved the book but hated the ending. I mean I’m happy peeta and katniss end up toghether but then Gale not being in her life at all! I almost cried when the author wrote “probably kissing another pair of lips.” I wanted her to be with gale from the begining and then they never speak again, like really? And with prim who was the only reason Katniss held on just gone! Then cinna, it just beaks my heart. And her mother who she most likly never came back. And the kids she never wanted it’s just to sad I’m like really depressed now.

  • Paige

    I cried when Prim died. And when Katniss saw buttercup, I was bawling. I really liked the part, when Katniss said, “The fire is catching! If we burn, you burn with us!”. I was hoping since the first book that she would end up with Peeta. Just the way they always showed love towards each other. I was hoping in the end that there would be a longer epilogue, because I wanted to know more about what happened to Panem, Gale, and her mother. I thought she would have a daughter and name her Prim or Madge, but I was close. I wish there would be another book, but I doubt that is going to happen. I’m just super excited for the movie now!

    • Chris

      Listen to the song if I die young. I think of that as sorta what catniss said to her mom and prim in the first book. It makes me cry everytime I hear it

  • Emily

    It is 1:09 AM, and I just finished Mockingjay. Not the brightest idea, seeing as there is NO way i’m going to bed anytime soon, but I just could not put it down…

    I agree with what everyone has been saying, how the ending was unfuffilling, a cliffhanger, and I was searching for closure. I try to picture an alternate ending, one where Prim lives in Katniss’loving arms, Finnick lives happily ever after with Annie, Peeta and Katniss end up together, while Gale and Katniss somehow manage to stay best friends. I honestly would have liked to see Gale end up falling in love with someone else, realizing he doesnt love katniss, more than a sister or best friend. Ooh, and the whole city of panem lives in one humungous nation, with no separation between districs. Just one big clump of people. In my ideal altrernate ending, katniss& Peeta, Gale& His lover, Prim and Katniss’ mother, Haymitch, Annie& Finnick, Johanna, Effie, Cinna (HE SHOULD HAVE LIVED!!!!), the prep team, Beetee, Paylor, the camera crew, and everyone else, all lived in a happy little neighborhood, all best friends, happily ever after.

    I wish. For now, i’m going to sleep through the night imagining this was thre outcome of the trilogy. I like it much better.

    I will try not to focus on the emptiness the ending leaves within me, the growling deperession boring through me. Does anyone agree? i couldnt put the book down, because I already knew the ending, in a way…My friend told me that prim died…and I was ready for that. But she said she liked the ending and it was good. But it wasnt. I had to keep reading, because I COULD NOT FIND the ending. I couldnt find closure, as all ending need. Nowhere is the ending did I find happiness.

    I just don’t get it. It makes me wonder, what was the point of the books? In the end, there was no winner, no happiness. The beginning of the trilogy, although it was stricken with “The Hunger Games” and starvation, seemed a HAPPIER time that after the war. It makes me honestly feel that the war was for nothing. Yea, they are free. Now what? I get no sense of victory here, or the feeling of “yes. the war is over, we are free. We have been waiting for this for a long time, our lives are now complete.” ya know? Are ya with me? I just feel the whole war was a waste, they were happier before.

    Oooooh well, I just have to keep reminding myself, its just a book. !

    • Chris

      I’m the same way. I have spent sleepless nights comtempating the books. But the end is a cliffhanger and it is used well. I wish she would write another book, the one with the capitols children, because of the vote. I am glad that coin was assasined that was nessicary or else they would be the same. I hate that cinnia died

  • CAS

    I was dissappoonted with the ending! I felt so invested in the characters and it just fell flat! No closure! I loved the first two books and wanted to love the third but I didn’t, I feel gypped :( . Guess I’ll have to make up a better ending or wait for the movie :)
    Question- Did anyone else notice the detail that Peeta was the only other one burned in the fire from the bomb, besides Katniss? I wonder why that detail was included? To make us realize how close Peeta was to Katniss, even though she couldn’t see him! That he was ready to protect her, as he had always done! The book doesn’t give any other details except for how the fire was extinguished off of her, something about falling, water, and birds. I’d like to think it was Peeta who pushed her to the water and saved her! It only seems fitting that it would be him that somehow saved her, which was his sole goal throughout the whole story!!! A hopeless romantic, I know ;)

  • Kelsey

    Mockingjay was by far my fav in the Hunger Games Trilogy. I’m a slow processor when it comes to hearing that someone has died. Someone who is VERY important and it took all the way to where Katniss is yelling at Buttercup to realize that Prim is really truly dead. I cried…
    But I liked the ending. I feel that even though she did sort of fail to protect Prim (though it was not her fault) i feel that now that she has two kids of her own she’ll do whatever it takes to protect them. It would’ve been lovely to know her kids’ names though. That would’ve made them feel more realistic to me.
    And from the first moment I read the first time that Coin spoke i knew there was something suspicious about her. IAnd even though i was suspicious, it shocked me when at the last minute she aimed her arrow up a Coin. I though she’d kill Snow and then Coin. I sort of wish Snow would have been thrown into his own Hunger Games. I wouldve watched that 24/7.
    That makes me sound just as bad as Snow though, probably…
    I’m also glad Katniss ended up with Peeta. And I like how she explains why she chose him over Gale.
    Gale would’ve added more feul to Katniss’ fire. While Peeta seems to be the antidote or the one to balance her out. Like Fire and Ice sort of. WHile she had the fire and the darkness almost, he had the light and warmth…and dandelions. :D Plus I like the whole Peeta struggling with two sides of himself. It shows that the purest of hearts can be manipulated to the Capitol’s advantage. Of course, it backfired on them in the end. Hee hee hee.

  • tanner mohry

    I really enjoyed the whole series but I was really surprised by the people who died. I wasn’t surprised that people died I was just surprised by who it was. Even katniss says in the story that all the people she trusted” cinna. Boggs. Finnick. Prim” are dead. I think collins should have kept at least one of these characters because by the time each one died I really like each one of them. It was kind of hard to get any of her crazier thoughts even though there were so many after prims death. She had talked to all four of these character, not boggs so much, about her thoughts and what she should do. I also think if finnick had to die why couldn’t collins have given him a more noble death than being blown up after being eaten by lizard people.

  • Richard F.

    Isn’t it weird how everyone Katniss trusted died? even Gale in a way. Aside from Peeta.

    • Katie

      Except Haymitch…I mean he seemed untrustworthy after manipulating both her and Peeta but overall I think he is a trustworthy person, after all, like Katniss said, he wouldn’t just rat her out to Coin. And her and Haymitch are so alike, which makes it all the more easier to communicate her thoughts to him.

      • Gabbyabi

        I think hugh laurie should play haymotch agree?

  • chris

    thats because in a situation like that it stresses that katniss and petta should be together and they are. i think that gale sorta died off because she could never marry the man that made the bomb that killed her sister, prim):

  • bjorn heights

    the ending was terribly rushed, i could not believe after all the build up that the story would end in such a dissatisfying way. really, why even keep gale in the story if he was just going to end up being nothing to katniss after the war? Why do the wedding between finnick and annie if he was just going to end up dead? yes, the ending was realistic, but it also completely ruined the entire trilogy.

  • Estanion

    Although I’m a sap when it comes to happy endings, I feel as if Collins’ close was almost superfluous with the depressing end of Katniss and Peeta on their own, making their own lives in a desolate place. (Although, they had initially thought of running away to live in freedom on their own while the districts lived in turmoil). My only qualm with the ending is the dismissal of Gale, “obtaining some fancy job in District 4.” It’s a weak dismissal for such a vital character and key figure in Katniss’ life. I guess it plays into the questioning in Katniss’ mind of Gale’s capability to kill innocent children, including Prim.

  • Dodg

    Okay, Finnick’s death is one thing, and I barely had time to prepare for that shocker, but PRIM! I swear, I will never pick up a Suzan Collings ( or whatever her name is ) book again! (If I can help it, which I probably can’t ) Gale’s side got to me too. I couldn’t possibly blame him for his need for vengence after all the Capitol has done. I felt pure pity when I read what happened to the Prep team. And personally, I don’t have much input for Peeta…He’ll never be the same again. Sigh. I can’t think of any good questions, but I have a ton

    • Jack

      i know right. suzan seemed like shee was just trying to kill everyone off. and the entire seires i thought gale was a better match for her (stupid love triangle)

  • Haley

    Oh my god. I loved it. Even with all of the deaths, all of the heartache, I thought it was so fabulous. I read a lot, and I’ve decided there are 3 descriptions for a book you like. The first is “good.” A good book is something you finish and feel satisfied for reading, but ultimately, it goes out of your mind and you don’t really think of it that much down the road. The next level is “great.” A great book is one that when you put it down, you think about it for days, even weeks, after you read it. Somewhere down the line, you’ll reread it. The hardest level for an author to achieve when reaching a writer, in my opinion, is exceptional. When a book is exceptional, you can’t get it out of your mind – it haunts you. The moment you’re done, all you want to do is reread.

    I categorize this trilogy, especially Mockingjay, as exceptional.

    • Haley

      I meant to post this with the original post, but I posted that before I typed this by mistake, haha.

      I love Peeta. I always have, always will. When I first read about the boy with the bread, I loved him. I felt so bad for both he and Katniss when I read about his hijacking. And I adored the real or not real line at the end.

      I never really had any opinion on Prim. She never really mattered to me, as a character. I just felt so terrible when she died because of how Katniss felt.

      As for Gale, I say good riddance. Even in the first book, I felt like he was kind of dark. And when I read the whole bit about him designing those bombs, and Katniss saying that it was going a little too far, I knew something was going to happen with them later on. I do blame him for Prim’s death, so I was extremely glad when I read that he and Katniss weren’t in contact anymore. I don’t know how she could have looked at him at all after that.

      Coin annoyed me even more than Snow. Sure, I disliked Snow GREATLY but when made Coin even more unlikeable to me, was the fact that she was the same exact thing as he was, ruling with an iron fist and willing to kill those who get in her way, only she was supposed to be better. She was leading the rebellion; you would figure she would differ from the man she wants to overthrow.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously i was glued to the “Hunger Game” seris since i read the first page but the ending was.. in contrast to the other books and their messages… bad. Gale was written out in a sentence this is her best friend i dont think he would have left her and most importantly the killing off of PRIM:( what good could come by killing her off i know the message of that war is bad is supposed to reflect this move in the book but i think it was displayed enough by killing off finnik, Cinna and the rest of the members of squad 415. so when she said yes to another hunger games i refused to read anymore(but of course i did) and last of all the ending …. it showed the mocking jay without her best friend and mother , depressed at having children … baadd. But she ended up with peeta !!!! so i guess it wasnt that bad.:)

    • Lauren

      I personally don’t think she was ‘depressed at having children.’ I’m still trying to figure out if she is considered happy, but she talked about the joy of holding the girl in her arms after the birth, how happy she was.

  • Polkadot Sugar

    i know u anonymous!!!!
    also i agree with wat u said.
    MockingJay was a good book on a whole but when seperated some parts- as u said r BAD!!! I was soooooooooooo happy when Peeta and Katniss got 2gehter though im a bit afraid 4 their children- ther mum is emotionally unstable and their Dad is mentally unsound.

  • Dina

    Okay, so I finished the last book about a week ago and ever since, ive been so obsessed. I started searching about the book online and read some spoilers including this one. Ive everyones comments and totally agree with everything. and I mean EVERYTHING!
    The book for me was an emotional rollercoaster. I loved and hated the book at the same time. I loved the momologue but I would have liked it better if collins had mentioned alot more about the other things like rest of panem, annie and her kid, gale, her mother. It was still the most amazing seriesever writen!
    I’m glad that Peeta ends up with Katniss because it feels as though only he can understand what happened in the games, the war etc.
    I kinda knew Gale was not really the one for Katniss but i was still shocked when he just suddenly disappeared from Katniss’ life. But I guess it was just for the best.
    I cried when prim, finnick and Cinna died. But the part where katniss is yelling at buttercup about how prims not comming back and shes dead and all that really made me cry. I kept remembering how she says to katniss how she would be adocter and she actually had a life ahead of her.
    The best OMG moment was when she killed Alma Coin. I think i saw it comming and knew that Coin was a bad person from the time she was introduced.
    Wow I cant belleive that ive just writen this much. I agree this series is exeptional (as someone else before said)…
    I just cant wait for the movie now!!!

  • Weathergirl198

    Personally I was not thrilled by this book. As much as i loved what was happening in the plot, and the development of the characters and such, in the end I was really angry with Katniss’ decision to do another Hungar Games. Throughout the entire trilogy she was fighting to preserve life, and no matter where she was, in the games allied with Rue, Peeta, or even Finnick, or at home helping out her family and friends, even in district 13, she was a strong advocate to life. The driving factor behind the series was here ability to not become corrupt through all the killing she was subjected to see and eventually do. There is even a moment when she states at the end of the novel how the Games and the war solved nothing, causing only death, and yet she voted for another final Hungar Games as revenge for Prim? That doesn’t make sense, she said herself it wouldn’t solve anything, that one action undid everything i thought I knew about her character and personally ruined the book for me.